George Adler is a three time bankrupt, struck off solicitor and has spent time in jail for obtaining money with deception.
Despite all this Tibor Karolyi from ITSA allowed him to travel overseas and now he is lost to the system. It is unclear if he ever returned to Australia. It is too easy for a bankrupt to change their name and assume a new identity.
Under freedom of Information Adler's statement of Affairs is to be sought. Although it is mandatory for a statement of Affairs to be filed it is unclear if Tibor Karolyi obtained this before overseas travel. It is also a breach of the duty of a trustee (S19)to fail to have this complied with.
Also FOI will also reveal whether Tibor Karolyi extended Adlers Bankruptcy.
Tibor Karolyi's neglect of duty in this matter is atrocious. Before authorising overseas travel Karolyi would have taken statements from the bankrupt. I am aware Karolyi is not of good character and any admissions by Adler would be concealed.
Tibor Karolyi's ex-wife was a high School teacher in Sydney's West. This predator woman had an affair with one of her students. It is disturbing that Mrs Karolyi lusted after her male students.
Tibor then remarried an asian woman that worked for him at ITSA.
Tibor Karolyi now woks for Tayeh De Vries at Parramatta.
It is also unclear if Tibor Karolyi requested money from Adler before also granting travel.
Friday, 30 November 2012
Monday, 19 November 2012
APS Commissioners directions/APSC disclosure log
Under Freedom of Information it has been revealed that the Australian Public Service Commission has no Investigation policy. It appears Commissioner Steve Sedgwick enjoys wanking himself.
The Attorney General's Investigation policy Pages 28, 29 and 30 gives the directions of the Public Service Commissioner in relation to determining breaches of the code of conduct . This would include deliberate breaches of Australian Law.
Section 5.4 of the Attorney General's Investigation standard requires that the person making the determination of breaches be independent and unbiased.
In the 2 previous financial years the wanker Sedgwick APSC Commissioner and the skank Karin Fisher, Ethics Manager has made the determination that all but one whistleblower or Agency Heads complaints should be fucked over. Another investigation was done by the Fucker Robert Cornall AO ( who received this award for licking arses) and loves the taste of shit.
The fact that Sedgwick and Fisher are not independent and in senior management at the APSC would have disqualified them for making decisions on breaches of conduct. As the emails show to Alison Larkins, the fat Mong that was acting Commonwealth Ombudsman and Veronique Ingram who along with Karin Fisher and Helen Daniels of the Attorney Generals department needs a night with a Truckie there was no obvious compliance with any AGIS standards.
An investigation also carried out by the Fucker Robert Cornall is a conflict of interest because his old fag worked for the Attorney Generals department and there was no independence.
The APSC have now gone to extreme lengths to establish the qualifications of Robert Cornall to me to carry out the investigation which fucked over whistleblowers and referral of Agency heads, however it is obvious that this fucker has a conflict of Interest.
Under FOI it has now been requested to obtain the statistics on Whistleblowers S16 and referral of Agency Heads S41(f) for the past 10 years to establish how long this behaviour has been occurring at the APSC
Attorney Generals Investigation standards
This is a copy of the Attorney Generals Investigation Standards as required by the Financial Management and accountability Act.
It was obtained under Freedom of Information.
A special note should be made that both the Australian Public Service Commission ( who has the responsibility of Whistleblowers complaints and referral of Agency Heads under S41(f) and the Commonwealth Ombudsman who according to the wanker assistant Senior Ombudsman George Masri does not need an investigation policy because it( Commonwealth Ombudsman ) does not do investigations.
These pages can be enlarged for easier reading.
It is also particularly interesting that pages 28, 29 and 30 of the Attorney Generals Investigation Standards refer to the directions of the Public Service Commissioner.
***Basic requirements for procedures for Determining breaches of Code of conduct.***
It is also required under S5.4 that persons making determination must be independent and unbiased.
This would disqualify any Agency or Department Heads from the investigation or determination process.
In the matter where the fucker Robert Cornall AO who received this AO for licking arses did an investigation for the APSC , there is an obvious conflict of interest, as this cock works for the Attorney General Department.
Helen Daniels was responsible in doing an investigation into atrocious conduct by Senior Management at ITSA in 2011. Not only was this skank biased because of her initial decision that the complaint had no grounds or merit despite a document and file that was 1,200 pages that she had not looked at,she eventually made the decision that it should dealt with by the Commonwealth Ombudsman who on their own admission has no investigation policy. Her failure to adequately comply with the Investigation Standards of the Attorney General's Department shows that Helen Daniels “ needs a night with a Truckie”
Saturday, 17 November 2012
Son of Rabbi David Rogut/Bankrupt Changes his name
The shonky person Ian Lazar whom this article is about has changed his name. He is a former Bankrupt and his name is Ian Rogut son of a Rabbi, David Rogut
There is little doubt how shonkey some Jews are!
Case of kidnapped canines descends into a dogfight
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Holding on ... Ian Lazar (who did not wish to be identified) with the three dogs he owns that were not kidnapped. Thieves are demanding a ransom of $300,000. Photo: Brendan Esposito
POLICE have searched several houses looking for the four kidnapped dogs of businessman Ian Lazar. The four small dogs were taken from Mr Lazar's north shore home two weeks ago. The dognappers have issued a demand of $300,000 for the safe return of Mr Lazar's pets Lilly, Bella, Goldberg and Max.
Mr Lazar, 39, has given the police the name of the man, a former close associate, whom he believes to be responsible for the kidnap of his dogs.
However, when contacted by the Herald yesterday, the man said he was not involved with the dogs' disappearance.
''I know nothing about the dogs,'' he said. He claimed the allegation against him was a ''set-up'' by Mr Lazar. He and Mr Lazar have fallen out over a substantial sum of money, the man said yesterday.
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The man claimed he was one of many victims of Mr Lazar and that the pair had been close until about two months ago when Mr Lazar failed to honour a written agreement whereby Mr Lazar would repay a large amount of money. Mr Lazar, however, claims the signature on the documents is a forgery.
The former associate of Mr Lazar's confirmed that the police had searched a home last week but had found no trace of any of Mr Lazar's dogs.
Earlier this week Mr Lazar obtained an interim apprehended violence order against the man claiming he feared for his life. In his application Mr Lazar stated that the man had previously ''threatened to kill me and my dogs.'' Mr Lazar also claimed the man had ''bashed me in front of other people'' and forced him to pay over a substantial sum of money against his will.
''He has to come to my home and threatened me on more than one occasion and told me I would be the next Michael McGurk,'' Mr Lazar claimed in an interim AVO application.
Mr Lazar's fiancee was previously married to one of the men allegedly threatened by the late standover man Michael McGurk.
The former associate denied previously assaulting Mr Lazar.
Mr Lazar, who has seven dogs, describes them as his ''babies.''
Mr Lazar said the kidnappers had wanted him to buy his dogs back ''or their throats will be cut one by one,'' he said.
Mr Lazar, who deals in the area of financial distress, works in an area rife with upset people. When people default on their loans, Mr Lazar said he negotiates a settlement with the bank and takes over the mortgage himself.
Mr Lazar said in an email yesterday he had been ''assaulted on various occasions and demands for money were forcibly collected from property settlements''.
He also said that it was ''easier to pay these monies over than have to have to deal with the continual expanded threat to my business, staff and friends. My mistake was letting it get to the level that it got to without taking a stance with the authorities''.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/case-of-kidnapped-canines-descends-into-a-dogfight-20110803-1ibnl.html#ixzz2CTD9tnFR
Friday, 16 November 2012
Letter to Adam Toma RE rental of Penthouse
Letter to Adam Toma
Mr Adam Toma
C/ Port Douglas
Dear Mr Toma,
I refer to my email making enquiries on the availability of your 2 penthouses in Port Douglas to which I have received no reply.
I urgently am in need of the verification if the penthouses are available the week 14th-21st January 2013.
I believe it would be most satisfactory if I were able to book both penthouses. Alternatively if both were not available I would like the larger of the two.
This is the week that the Churches from all over Australia will be holding a bible study conference.
As a church group we intend to have 47 Adults and 25 children staying in your penthouse. As I said we would prefer to have both penthouses, alternatively if only one was available we would be able to sleep all the adults in one bedroom and the children in the other.
Naturally if it was necessary to sleep all the adults in one bedroom we would hire bunk beds so if you could recommend a local hire company to supply these I would appreciate it.
Also on the 18th January 2013 we will also be having 27 Asylum Seekers from Manus Island and Naru staying with us for 2 days. We believe we can accommodate these people in hammocks on the balcony of the penthouse, so we we also like to hire 27 hammocks.
As you only have 3 toilets available I have also taken this into consideration and we intend to hire 10 “ Port-a -loos” and I understand they can be positioned at the front of the property. I also intend to hire a large tent and erect it in the back yard and this could contain any stoves and fridges that we would need to obviously feed this amount of people as on the 19th January it is intended to have the asylum seekers baptized in your pool.
Looking forward to your response.
Yours sincerely
XXXX
Sunday, 11 November 2012
Commissioner steve Sedgwick APSC S 41(f)
This is a copy of the email sent to me form the Faggot Commissioner Steve Sedgwick Australian Public Service Commission.
Despite extensive evidence of systemic corrupt conduct at ITSA whose head is Veronique Ingram and the failure of Alision Larkins, the fat mong who comes from Tasmania for failing in her obligation to expose the atrocious breaches of the Bankruptcy Act Steve Sedgwick made a decision that an inquiry into these two fat women was not necessary.
I also would like to comment on Mr Steve Sedgwick's comment on the last paragraph of his letter where he said “Please stop sending abusive emails and posting abusive remarks about individuals. Any further abusive correspondence will be filed without reading”...........
So fuckers stop reading them
Friday, 9 November 2012
Trustee Paul Pattison believed to hav traded insolvent for 3 years
It is believed Paul Pattison traded for 3 years insolvent. ASIC ordered him to stop practicing but the fuckers at ITSA , Skanky Veronique Ingram and the National Enforcement Manager Adam Toma who is on the take declined to take any action against him.
This could only be because Adam Toma is on the same take as Paul Pattison . To expose Paul Pattison would expose the scam at ITSA
Eat your own shit Adam Toma!!!!!!
This could only be because Adam Toma is on the same take as Paul Pattison . To expose Paul Pattison would expose the scam at ITSA
Eat your own shit Adam Toma!!!!!!
THE corporate regulator has launched Victorian Supreme Court action to bar Melbourne-based liquidator Paul Pattison from practising after his own firm sank into liquidation last year.
Mr Pattison owes about $2.5 million to Bankwest and at least $1.5 million to the Tax Office for unpaid business tax, interest and penalties incurred in his practice, which until April traded as Pattison Consulting.
Mr Pattison still operates as a bankruptcy trustee and liquidator through his new practice, Pattison Business Reconstruction and Insolvency Services, and he controls at least 100 files on company insolvencies and hundreds more on personal bankruptcies.
But the Australian Securities and Investments Commission's court move precipitated an urgent meeting yesterday of the board of the professional body governing liquidators, the Insolvency Practitioners Association of Australia (IPA), which immediately suspended Mr Pattison's membership and began its own disciplinary proceedings against him.
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Mr Pattison's circumstances have underscored concerns about disciplinary procedures within the insolvency industry and refocused attention on a profession still reeling from allegations about rogue practitioners and adverse findings last year by a Senate inquiry.
One experienced practitioner said it ''beggars belief'' that a liquidator could go broke and yet continue to practice.
The liquidator in charge of Pattison Consulting believes the practice may have traded while insolvent for almost three years.
Mr Pattison's employees are claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in unpaid wages, accrued leave and outstanding superannuation entitlements, and a further $105,000 is owed to an associated company, Pattison (Australia) Pty Ltd, which is also in liquidation.
ASIC is investigating Mr Pattison for possible breaches of sections 180, 181, 183 of the Corporations Act, which relate to fiduciary duties, 596AB regarding avoidance of employee entitlements, and 588G, which is the requirement not to trade while insolvent.
Under the Corporations Act, ASIC has two routes for disciplinary action: it can refer matters to the Companies Auditors and Liquidators Board; or it can apply directly to the Supreme Court.
ASIC wants the court to order Mr Pattison to stop practising until he can show he has the capacity to ''adequately and properly carry out his duties as a liquidator''. It also wants arrangements made for his current files to be distributed among other liquidators, and for a receiver to be appointed to his new PBRIS practice.
Neither Mr Pattison nor his lawyer returned calls or emails yesterday. ASIC declined to comment.
IPA president Mark Robinson said the IPA had been investigating Mr Pattison since November.
Mr Pattison has been a registered liquidator since 1984 and an official liquidator of the Federal Court and the Victorian Supreme Court for almost 20 years.
Pattison Consulting was put into what is known as a member's voluntary liquidation in April 2010 on the understanding that it would repay its debts within 12 months.
Mr Pattison and Pattison Consulting's then liquidator, Stirling Horne of Lawler Draper Dillon, agreed Mr Pattison could transfer all the insolvency and bankruptcy files of the old business to his new firm, allowing him to generate income to repay creditors.
But after Mr Pattison failed to remit any sums to Mr Horne by October, Bankwest appointed receivers and Mr Horne moved to appoint a new administrator, Peter Vince of Vince & Associates. Both Bankwest and Mr Vince opposed Mr Pattison's plan for a deed of company arrangement, and creditors voted in early December to liquidate his firm.
Mr Vince told creditors the firm suffered from a lack of cash flow, high overheads, insufficient working capital and ''poor strategic management'', and that it may have been insolvent since May 2007.
Some insolvency specialists suggested that Mr Pattison, widely recognised as one of the more aggressive and litigious practitioners of the past two decades, had failed to adjust his business to suit the tough conditions experienced in the insolvency industry.
Insolvency specialists claim their operating margins have tightened in the past few years, in part because the financial crisis curbed lending and because banks in the past two decades have adopted more rigorous internal controls over problem loans. That means the small businesses that do tip into administration or liquidation tend to generate only slim returns.
The Senate inquiry last year recommended the responsibilities for supervising and disciplining liquidators and trustees, which now reside with ASIC, be transferred to Insolvency and Trustee Service Australia so as to form the Australian Insolvency Practitioners Authority.
IPA chief executive Denise North said the professional body was ''committed to maintaining the highest standards of conduct in the profe
Request for Freedom of Information /ITSA disclosure Log
This is ITSA's disclosure log as required under the Financial Management and Accountability Act.
As you will see there has only been one FOI request in the past 12 months.
I made a request over two months ago for a copy of their investigation policy. I received no reply.
The office of the Information Minister went to lengths to attemp to have Dave Maher supply this information to me. ITSA told the Office of the information Minister that they had no intention of supplying "Ms Brown " with anything. The office of the information Minister then advised ITSA of their obligations under the Freedom of Information Act.
It is clearly obvious that ITSA has received other requests for Freedom of Information in the past 12 months and ITSA has also refused to supply the information.
It is the responsibility of Dave Maher to publish the contents of FOI on the disclosure
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As you will see there has only been one FOI request in the past 12 months.
I made a request over two months ago for a copy of their investigation policy. I received no reply.
The office of the Information Minister went to lengths to attemp to have Dave Maher supply this information to me. ITSA told the Office of the information Minister that they had no intention of supplying "Ms Brown " with anything. The office of the information Minister then advised ITSA of their obligations under the Freedom of Information Act.
It is clearly obvious that ITSA has received other requests for Freedom of Information in the past 12 months and ITSA has also refused to supply the information.
It is the responsibility of Dave Maher to publish the contents of FOI on the disclosure
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ITSA's Favorite post/ Senator Williams re-write/ITSA disclosure log
This appears to be the post that most annoys ITSA.
Clearly it appears that skanky Veronique Ingram and the faggot Adam Toma National Regulations and Enforcement Manager are attempting to have all matters at ITSA covered up.
I also refer to the email following as Adam Toma attemps to threaten me for exposing ITSA......
Adam |Toma and Veronique Ingram come......
Kiss my ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Senator WILLIAMS: He was deregistered as a trustee in bankruptcy after he had voluntarily resigned from his 272 active matters in July last year. I think I have raised this issue of Mr Pattison with you before. I want to raise with you a matter that involved Mr Pattison and Mr Alex Kane Mircevski, of Victoria. You would be familiar with this long-running battle with Mr Pattison?
Adam Toma's intimidation threat to shut me up
Clearly it appears that skanky Veronique Ingram and the faggot Adam Toma National Regulations and Enforcement Manager are attempting to have all matters at ITSA covered up.
I also refer to the email following as Adam Toma attemps to threaten me for exposing ITSA......
Adam |Toma and Veronique Ingram come......
Kiss my ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHAIR: Ms Ingram, good evening. Do you have an opening statement?
Ms Ingram: Yes I do............. I want to tell Senator Brandis and Senator Williams to come kiss my Arse.
Senator BRANDIS: Your agency has received, according to table 1.1 in the portfolio budget statement—I am looking at page 361—a 26.4 per cent increase in funding in the budget. Is that right?
Ms Ingram : Yes. But I as I have already told you .........................
Senator BRANDIS: Is that entirely due to the Personal Property Securities Register?
Senator BRANDIS: Does it to any degree reflect your assessment of future demands that might be made upon your agency because of an increase in insolvency?
Mrs Ingram: listen here you dumb fuck Senators.................I already realize yo are trying to corner me into admitting what is occurring with senior management at ITSA and I have the protection of Alison Larlins who has assured me she will coverup all systemic corrupt conduct ... so what ever .. what ever you can all fuck off with your questions....
Senator BRANDIS: I see. Turning then to the Personal Property Securities Register, I am aware that there have been a number of difficulties in the commencement of the new arrangements. These are perhaps best understood as teething problems, and we had some remedial legislation in the Senate a little while ago to deal with at least some of them. Can you please describe to the committee how the introduction of the system has gone and identify to us any particular problems that you have identified in the start-up phase.
Ms Ingram : I think I would like to distinguish the legislative amendment from the—
Senator BRANDIS: Administration.
Ms Ingram : Yes, the prescription of the starting of the register on 30 January. The legislation, of course, is a matter for the Attorney-General's Department, but that piece of—....................... awwww now I can't remember what the fuck I was talking about.............
Senator BRANDIS: All right. My colleague Senator Williams has told me that he has some questions he wants to ask of you. So, in the hope that those questions will not take all that long to ask and answer, I am going to yield the call, if I may, Madam Chair, to him.
Senator WILLIAMS: Folks from ITSA, I want to take you to a couple of issues. I want to take you to Mr Paul Pattison—you would be familiar with the name?
Ms Ingram: look you stupid fuck!!!!!! I don't want to discuss Paul Pattison because to expose his corrupt dealings would expose the legal advise given to trustees from Matthew Osborne Principal Legal Officer. I have already told you Alison Larkins has made a deal to cover up the shonkey legal advice given by Matthew Osborne so fucking do not ask me about Paul Pattison.... Got it.....
Senator WILLIAMS: He was deregistered as a trustee in bankruptcy after he had voluntarily resigned from his 272 active matters in July last year. I think I have raised this issue of Mr Pattison with you before. I want to raise with you a matter that involved Mr Pattison and Mr Alex Kane Mircevski, of Victoria. You would be familiar with this long-running battle with Mr Pattison?
Ms Ingram : I am aware of some of the issues, but you can kiss my arse... it is old news as far as I am concerned... I am more concerned along with Mathew Osborne, Mark Findlay and Adam Toma of fucking everyone over in the future. Mark Findlay does a splendid job in Bankruptcy regulations of covering up all breaches of the Bankruptcy Act. Mark Findlay was nurtured by Florence CHOO deputy Official Receiver ACT and NSW who gave him a leg up in management and then he got his leg over her.
Senator WILLIAMS: I refer to a letter dated 12 August 2009 signed by you, Ms Ingram. It is a response to complaints Mr Mircevski made to the Attorney-General on 17 and 8 July 2009. You refer to a letter dated 19 June 2009 which indicated the conduct of the trustee was not considered inappropriate. What investigations of Mr Pattison led your Bankruptcy Regulation Branch to that conclusion?
Ms Ingram: Look Senator Williams it is important to note that this trustee has been deregistered.. ITSA did its best to cover everything up for him but unfortunately it failed. I told you to fuck off earlier. ITSA did review his system and files and came to the conclusion that there was no improper conduct by Paul Pattison in the matter of Mr Mircevski.
Clearly Senator Williams I am not going to fucking admit to you anything.
Senator WILLIAMS: I believe he milked Mr Mircevski's assets to the tune of $400,000. I think Mr Mircevski was being sued by the ATO for an amount of $27,000. I think $400,000 was milked out, and not one cent went to the ATO. That might need some more clarification. Obviously Mr Pattison was broke—perhaps he should not have been, the way he milked Mr Mircevski's assets. Take me through in brief what you do to investigate such complaints, including what examination is done of the trustee's books?
Ms Ingram : well ... what the fuck Senator Williams... shit happens...............Generally we review the trustee's books every year to 18 months. We review each trustee's operations. If you are referring to what do we do when we receive a request to review a matter, we would go to the trustee and ask him to respond to the allegations, and we would test them. I cannot respond in relation to this particular matter—I do not have the details before me. However ITSA do have a very good review system which involves Adam Toma National manager Enforcement and Regulations who I have confidence can fuck anyone over who makes a complaint
Senator WILLIAMS: Would you take it on notice.
Ms Ingram : Yes. You might be aware that Mr Mircevski is currently before the courts in relation to a criminal matter trumped up by ITSA which we all hope will silence him.
Senator WILLIAMS: I am well aware of that—I do not know about a criminal matter; I know it is in relation to a property at Kinglake that was burnt out. I think Mr Pattison was responsible for the insurance as trustee at the time, and no doubt more of that will come out in the wash. How many other complaints were received about Paul Pattison before Mr Mircevski sought to have him removed?
Ms Ingram : AWWW ... fuck off.....
Senator WILLIAMS: Why did ITSA oppose a subpoena seeking ITSA's records to support Pattison's removal by the Federal Court?
Ms Ingram : Again I will repeat myself you stupid fuck...... that to expose the practice of Paul Pattison would be to expose ITSA .....
Senator WILLIAMS: Why did ITSA threaten or actually seek personal costs orders against volunteer members of the Bar Duty Barristers Scheme, a public interest law clearing house which offers help to the vulnerable? Who approves such actions by ITSA? You basically threatened Geoff Slater that if he continued representing Mr Mircevski—he took a voluntary job that I put them in touch with when Mr Mircevski contacted my office in desperation; Mr Slater went and did a charity job for a vulnerable person—you would seek costs from him. Why did you do that?
Ms Ingram : How funny you brought that up..... Sometimes this threat works and sometimes it doesn't.Clearly in the case of Ms Brown Adam Toma threatened her with S474.17 which carries 3 years imprisonment..... I don't think this has deterred her though
Senator WILLIAMS: This was a barrister representing Mr Mircevski. I will repeat the question. Why did ITSA threaten or actually seek personal costs orders against volunteer members of the Bar Duty Barristers Scheme—a volunteer scheme where barristers actually donate their time to help the vulnerable? Why did you seek costs?
Ms Ingram : Well …. do you think I am a moron??? Kiss my arse... you do not have to repeat your question … I wanted to actually avoid it. I also would like to repeat myself that I have protection from the Acting Commonwealth Ombudsman Alsison Larkins and I just did a deal with the APS Commissioner Steve Sedgwick to protect ITSA as well so fuck off............I will have to take on notice the matter in relation to costs.
Senator WILLIAMS: It certainly scared away a volunteer barrister who was there to protect the vulnerable against Pattison, who has now been scrubbed out, I believe, from ASIC as well as a liquidator who has gone broke. He acted like a vulture on this person. That is the way I see it. When a volunteer barrister comes in, you threaten him with costs. If you take that on notice, I would like to know the answer to that please. What happens now to the victims of Paul Pattison, including the bankrupts and the creditors? Will there be an apology from your organisation?
Ms Ingram :Yep..... we did a really good job there scaring away that barrister .. It worked exceptionally well in that circumstance.ITSA is still going through the books of Paul Pattison to cover up everything but as I have already told you ITSA has found no misconduct so you can all go and eat shit...........
Senator WILLIAMS: Are you actually in control of that property in the Kinglake area that was once Mr Mircevski's? Is that now in ITSA's control?
Ms Ingram : I would have to take that on notice.
Senator WILLIAMS: I believe Westpac Bank now has a mortgage on the property and it is worth less than the mortgage; it is in negative. The property might be worth $100,000 and the debt is $140,000. The debt is actually higher. If that is the case and if ITSA has control of the property, are you allowed to release that property for a small sum of money that is in negative equity?
Ms Ingram : Get to the fucking point..... Release it to who arsehole?
Senator WILLIAMS: If Mr Mircevski is now out of bankruptcy and wishes to buy the block back?
Ms Ingram : The estate is still in administration and those assets remain with the trustee for distribution to creditors.
Senator WILLIAMS: Can the victims of Paul Pattison seek compensation? Do you know if that is possible?
Ms Ingram : I cannot answer your question in globo because I do not know who you are referring to as victims. ITSA is still attempting to coverup that the Principal legal officer Matthew Osborne is giving trustees legal advice that S134(3) gives them the discretion to breach the bankruptcy Act. So if you got no proof of this then you can all fuck off. Matthew Osborne gave this information to Ms brown because he thought she was a trustee. However I understand that ITSA has attempted to delete any evidence of this by hacking into her computer and removing any evidence, so again eat shit and as far as ITSA is concerned Paul Pattison has not breached the Bankruptcy Act.... do I need to repeat myself.... Paul Pattison has not breached the Bankruptcy Act..
CHAIR: Senator, there are a couple of things I am feeling a bit nervous about here. The trustee service is a full fee-paying recovery service. Also, we tend to stay away from very particular personal details and matters. We did that for the first couple of days in Immigration certainly when it came to particular cases. Can I make a suggestion that you either put these questions on notice or perhaps seek to get a private briefing and meet with the trustee.
Senator WILLIAMS: If you like I can be more general in my questions in the future.
CHAIR: That is true.
Adam Toma's intimidation threat to shut me up
Again Adam Toma....
Come Kiss my ARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: RE: breeches to the Bankruptcy act
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:21:49 +1100
From: Adam.Toma@itsa.gov.au
To: fionabrown01@hotmail.com
I have today asked our computer systems team to block all emails received from you. ITSA will as a result no longer receive your emails. As per my previous email, please forward all future correspondence to myself by mail at the address below. Your correspondence will only be considered if it raises issues which you have not previously raised.
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:21:49 +1100
From: Adam.Toma@itsa.gov.au
To: fionabrown01@hotmail.com
Dear Ms Brown,
I once again draw your attention to the following:
Section 474.17 of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth) provides an offence for using a carriage service to menace, harass or offend.
474.17 Using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person uses a carriage service; and
(b) the person does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years.
"Carriage service" has the same meaning as in the Telecommunications Act 1997 (Cth) and is broad enough to capture telephone calls, email and SMS.
474.17 Using a carriage service to menace, harass or cause offence
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person uses a carriage service; and
(b) the person does so in a way (whether by the method of use or the content of a communication, or both) that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, menacing, harassing or offensive.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 3 years.
"Carriage service" has the same meaning as in the Telecommunications Act 1997 (Cth) and is broad enough to capture telephone calls, email and SMS.
I have today asked our computer systems team to block all emails received from you. ITSA will as a result no longer receive your emails. As per my previous email, please forward all future correspondence to myself by mail at the address below. Your correspondence will only be considered if it raises issues which you have not previously raised.
Should you be unsatisfied with the outcome of ITSA's investigations, you may pursue one or more of the following options:
- obtain the consent of another trustee to take over administration of the estate;
- make a complaint to the Commonwealth Ombudsman; or
- apply to the Court under sections 178 or 179 of the Bankruptcy Act if you consider you have been affected by a particular act, omission or decision of the trustee (application to the Court must be made within 60 days of the relevant act, omission or decision), or you wish the court to inquire into the conduct of the trustee.
Yours sincerely,
Adam Toma
National Manager Trustee Services
Insolvency and Trustee Service Australia
Level 16, 300 La Trobe Street, Melbourne Vic 3000
Phone 1300 364 785
Fax (03) 8631 4940
Adam Toma
National Manager Trustee Services
Insolvency and Trustee Service Australia
Level 16, 300 La Trobe Street, Melbourne Vic 3000
Phone 1300 364 785
Fax (03) 8631 4940
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